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clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Hong Kong or Sweden, Mon, 13 May 2024 22:02:56 +0200 from friendica

On Saturday, the Fediverse is celebrating it's 16th anniversary!

How are you celebrating?

#fediverse16years

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Mon, 13 May 2024 22:07:45 +0200 from friendica

Tonight when I should have been sleeping or writing some stuff for work, I accidentally took a walk down fedi memory lane. Someone posted on their profile which accounts they had when, and I was inspired and made yet another attempt to locate some fragments of posts on servers long gone.

This time I was successful!
RE: libranet.de/objects/0b6b25a8-1…

clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 wrote the following post Mon, 13 May 2024 20:06:54 +0200

Hahaaa! I found a still running old school GNU Social that has a shadow profile of my old #quitter.se account!

https://chirp.cooleysekula.net/user/4342

Thank you for hanging in there, Professor Steve. 🥰

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Hong Kong or Sweden, Mon, 13 May 2024 22:14:01 +0200 last edited: Wed, 15 May 2024 04:00:24 +0200 from friendica

A brief timeline of Fedi and my life on it:

2008-05-18 @Evan Prodromou fires up identi.ca, the beginning of it all:

web.archive.org/web/2008061816…

This is my first post.

2008-10-14 I joined identi.ca. I don't know what my first post was.

web.archive.org/web/2008121206…

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Mon, 13 May 2024 22:26:55 +0200 from friendica

2011-11-29 I joined parlementum.net. What's the point of being on a federated network if you're on the same server as everyone else?

web.archive.org/web/2013030121…

Parlementum was run by encyclomundi, who after a while would come down with life-threatening illness and disappeared off the net for several years. When he resurfaced we said hello on Twitter, but I never met him in person before he left this world for good.

This loss was the point at which I decided I should travel to meet more fedis, so if you meet me in Portland, OR in August this year, it will be partly because Charles "encyclomundi" Roth, his generosity and his kindness made such a deep impression on me.

🥰 GNU encyclomundi 🥰

web.archive.org/web/2011082708…

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Hong Kong or Sweden, Mon, 13 May 2024 22:42:21 +0200 last edited: Mon, 13 May 2024 22:43:10 +0200 from friendica

As parlementum was being wound down and encyclomundi withdrawing from online life in 2013, I took temporary refuge at unlimited.status.net, one of many general-purpose *.status.net servers Evan's company StatusNet was running, experimenting with different maximum post length. They had names like 280, 560 and ... unlimited.

This was during the #pumpocalypse. identi.ca was already running pump.io at this point, but *.status.net were still on StatusNet and OStatus. I was already on the pumpiverse with an account on microca.st, but wanted to stay on the OStatusverse as well. It was not yet clear what that verse would look like without its flagship.

web.archive.org/web/2013050608…

We can see one of the last parlementum posts reposted here:

FINAL WARNING! !parlementum SN site & hyacinth server are shutting down during the day of 15 April PDT.
about 22 days ago from parlementum.net at Wheel Estates Mobile Home Park, Washington, United States Repeat of encyclomundi

morph

Mon, 13 May 2024 23:01:42 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 R.I.P. Charles🕯️

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Mon, 13 May 2024 23:03:55 +0200 from friendica

It was becoming clear that Qvitter was the future of the Fediverse. It was being called the Fediverse now, at least by some people, since around May 2012 if I remember our fedi archaeology accurately.

GNU Social / StatusNet was looking old-fashioned and Qvitter was the new and cool web application that looked like Twitter 2013 instead of Twitter 2008. Unfortunately it also broke the Wayback Machine, so today I'm grateful to the sites that retained the old-school UI as their default.

Early on quitter.se seems to have kept old-school the default, so we can see my profile page and that I joined on 2013-07-21.

web.archive.org/web/2013072317…

Ruben

Mon, 13 May 2024 23:29:18 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 Meanwhile I led the fray into Clukker.com - Social Networking for Chickens (a pivotal moment in the Fediverse history)). Some of it even got archived.

Blacky will be pleased, bless her. I’m sure she would have proclaimed, “Kaarrk, dook dook, dook dook” [Long live the Fediverse”

https://web.archive.org/web/20101220155837/http://clukker.com:80/blacky

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:00:01 +0200 from friendica

2016 was a tumultuous year. A Twitter exodus led to @Angry Sun and others first joining quitter.se and other Qvitter sites, then setting up their own servers where they didn't have to follow quitter.se rules. quitter.se admin Hannes helped them with this, you can read more about it in Robek's web.archive.org/web/2022110718… . This changed Fediverse social dynamics forever.

A few months later @Eugen Rochko launched Mastodon and mastodon.social. *This* changed Fediverse social dynamics forever. Again.

2016-10-11 I joined mastodon.social to try it out, but quitter.se was still my main.

dilbert 1

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:02:45 +0200 from pleroma

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Evan Prodromou @Gargron Mastodon in my opinion changed the culture of the Fediverse multiple times in different subsequent waves! There was as much culture shock between us and some of the 2018 people as between 2016 GNU Social Fediverse and when sealion.club/freezepeach.social and SPC arrived.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:07:55 +0200 from friendica

@Angry Sun Yeah, every subsequent Twitter wave has basically had culture shock with the wave before it. 😄

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:11:30 +0200 from friendica

Bwaaaahahaha this classic exchange.

web.archive.org/web/2017021919…

@lambadalambda What's going on on your instance?

You think I'm going to ban / moderate someone because one user on mastodon.social had to read a DISSERTATION on ancap politics?

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:21:54 +0200 from friendica

Around the time Mastodon entered the room, ActivityPub was already brewing in the background. Why?

1. @Evan Prodromou wanted to take pump.io lessons learned to the W3C
2. @Christine Lemmer-Webber wanted federation in MediaGoblin

In the end, ActivityPub almost didn't become a W3C recommendation due to time constraints if it hadn't been for the fact that

3. @Eugen Rochko wanted better privacy controls and federated DMs in Mastodon, and less papering over the gaps in OStatus

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:51:56 +0200 from friendica

As AP was coming up, @Prolog im Himmel started working on Pleroma to explore:

1. AP, and a backend written to use it as its internal datamodel from the get go
2. A backend in a language for highly concurrent network services (Elixir)
3. A frontend with new ideas for threading and a modern web framework (Vue)

The first phase was to bootstrap by building the new frontend over the GNU Social backend. Some time around 2017-04-01 I joined heldscalla to be there as it happened. We can see in chirp.cooleysekula.net/convers… that I was setting up my follows on the new account.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:12:36 +0200 from friendica

Here's a funny thing. My latest jump between accounts was when I moved here, to libranet. And that's the one I'm the most vague on. 🤣

I joined on 2018-07-03 and I think it was because I had wanted to try Friendica for some time. I think Heldscalla was also always intended to be an interim and an experiment. But then quitter.se collapsed shortly after I joined.

I think I may have been one of the last active users on Heldscalla, as Pleroma BE was ready, and people had left for a full FE+BE Pleroma server like Soykaf, or they had gone to Mastodon. It was closed or collapsed shortly after I left, I think.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:13:41 +0200 from friendica

Even though I barely remember why I moved here, libranet is now the main I've had the longest. It has performance issues sometimes, it needs to periodically close for db backups, the UI has its fair share of quirks, but I feel really at home here.

Life is slower and more thoughtful in the conversation-oriented Friendica model, compared to the more microbloggy and hectic Pleroma, Mastodon and *key worlds. To me, anyway.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:18:36 +0200 from friendica

So, happy birthday Fediverse! It's been a joy to see you happen and I am grateful to not just the handful of people mentioned, but to all the other people who were necesssary for this to ever happen, to happen the way it did, and for it to still be here today.

Thank you to all of you, and if I can make sure it won't clash with my HK visa renewal, I hope to meet several of you at FOSSy 2024!

Christine Lemmer-Webber

Tue, 14 May 2024 18:29:16 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @gargron @Evan Prodromou This is true but I also want to highlight that @Erin 💽✨ wrote the first draft version of the spec (transformed from the Pump API), @Jessica carried the spec through the first half of standardization, and I carried it through the second half, with major work / help from @https://rhiaro.co.uk/... and @Evan Minto wrote the first draft version of ActivityPub in Mastodon which Gargron completed! Not to mention all the other people in the SocialWG, etc :)

Evan Minto

Tue, 14 May 2024 19:10:41 +0200 from mastodon

@Christine Lemmer-Webber @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Evan Prodromou @Erin 💽✨ @Jessica @https://rhiaro.co.uk/ So proud to have been a small part of this, and it's amazing how much farther other folks like @Gargron took it after me!

Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:14:28 +0200 from pleroma

@Angry Sun @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 Weirdest one is I barely have memories of how SPC/FZP/… changed fedi (as I joined fedi somewhere in in 2013, first instance being loadaverage.org which was one of the last GNU Social instances to close down).

iceloops

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:16:43 +0200 from pleroma

@Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Angry Sun loadadverage was

iceloops

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:16:51 +0200 from pleroma

@Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Angry Sun fun

Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:19:29 +0200 last edited: Tue, 14 May 2024 00:19:55 +0200 from pleroma

@iceloops @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Angry Sun yeah, I hopped to the Friendica side of things with friendica.eu / social.hacktivis.me / snarl.de at some point though so I could connect with the folks at diaspora without yet-another-account (and then diaspora got irrelevant).

Erin 💽✨

Tue, 14 May 2024 20:16:14 +0200 from akkoma

@Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @iceloops @Angry Sun its sad to think of the projects which got approached and invited to the ActivityPub process and decided not to get involved and which have slid into irrelevance

Its understandanle; I think even most of us assumed it would be an XKCD-927 situation; and yet it was sad to watch as they marched stubbornly towards obscurity

The Nexus of Privacy

Wed, 15 May 2024 04:15:49 +0200 last edited: Wed, 15 May 2024 04:16:03 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 great thread. It would be great to know more about the word fediverse was getting used in 2012, the The Federated SNS (Fediverse) Historical Timeline likes to a Twitter archive that doesn't show usage really picking up until early 2013. But then again that's usage on Twitter ... what about actually on the (proto-)fediverse?

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Wed, 15 May 2024 05:12:57 +0200 from friendica

@The Nexus of Privacy That's a cool timeline! And you actually have a receipt for "fediverse" in 2012-05, that's awesome.

I agree that it wasn't in general use. The skilledtests group "fediverse", e.g., wasn't created until 2013-07.

My timeline is based on people who were there agreeing that by the time Katsma was using it on Twitter in 2013-01, it had an established meaning.

The term was in use before identi.ca left OStatus, as people were creating more servers and moving away ahead of time. I haven't been able to find a hard source for that claim though, sorry.

The Nexus of Privacy

Wed, 15 May 2024 05:43:36 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 thanks, that's great info! And yeah, very hard to find hard sources for stuff from back then.

I'm not sure about the 2012-05 reference, it might be talking about the fediverse in the sense of "the network used by the feds" (aka US government employees).

(BTW the timeline isn't mine, it was done by @Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 )

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Wed, 15 May 2024 05:47:51 +0200 from friendica

@The Nexus of Privacy Yes, after looking again I'd want better evidence that the first mention there was actually related to the free social web.

@Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

Wed, 15 May 2024 07:55:32 +0200 from mastodon

@The Nexus of Privacy

As far as I remember, “fediverse” was actively used in identica groups. But, unfortunately, after a thorough search of web.archive.org for instances around that time, none were archived. The only ones archived were the Twitter ones, users who crossposted to Twitter.

T_T

Some of those Twitter posts with “fediverse”, came from Laconica/StatusNet instances. Some of them were very familiar. It started as “identiverse” before it turned into “fediverse”. I remember there was a discussion about it. Someone raised how “identiverse” no longer fits as there are other instances besides identica already (not to mention, other software, and identica is attached to Laconica/StatusNet).

So, yeah, sadly, that's history that can no longer be “verified”. I don't even trust what I remember, LOL. It was a time when everyone was just cool about it, agrees easily, and then poof, it's done. It didn't register well in our memories.

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

Wed, 15 May 2024 07:57:19 +0200 last edited: Wed, 15 May 2024 08:00:05 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 Yeah! Parlementum / Encyclomundi. I miss him. He was one of the earliest host who simply provided various services without asking for anything in return.

He's still around, using Hubzilla I think, but not that active anymore, I think?

EDIT: I just read, he went ahead. T_T Rest in peace!

(I guess someone's pretending to be him recently.)

Laurel L Russwurm

Wed, 25 Sep 2024 01:03:20 +0200 from mastodon

@Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

Oh, I am so sad to hear of Charles' passing. He was such a lovely person...one of the friends I made through Identica, and one of the people I have hoped to reconnect with in the Fediverse.

@clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:23:46 +0200 from mastodon

@Laurel L Russwurm

Yep. He's kind, approachable, committed to innovation and a sharing culture. I miss his insights. T_T

@clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

Mon, 13 May 2024 23:35:18 +0200 from gnusocial

I think I briefly had a Parlementum account. I felt like I didn't have the resources to help support Charles' dream, so I didn't want to consume the limited resources he had available.

elmussol

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:16:03 +0200 from Streams at els Mussols

When Charles got too ill to give Parlementum the love it deserved, he moved his fedi presence to my (at the time Red Matrix) elsmussols.net instance and then came along for the ride when we went Hubzilla.

We were the same age to within a couple of weeks and I miss him a lot and think of him often. A privilege to know him.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:24:45 +0200 from friendica

@elmussol Did you meet Charles in person?

elmussol

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:40:02 +0200 from Streams at els Mussols

Painfully no. He was desperate to come to els Mussols to see our mountain and our olives. We talked of (pipe-dream) meetings in Jamaica to watch cricket and baseball in Havana.

@Haakon Meland Eriksen (Els Mussols) came to visit us irl and if iirc it was not too long after he died. We talked of Charles whilst harvesting olives and just being happy and sad at the same time, knowing he would've absolutely loved that.

elmussol

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:45:13 +0200 last edited: Tue, 14 May 2024 00:45:52 +0200 from Streams at els Mussols

And self-professed fediverse nomad @Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum) keeps the name alive.

elmussol

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:50:33 +0200 from Streams at els Mussols

And the Pickwick Club still exists as a Telegram thing.

dilbert 1

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:27:46 +0200 from pleroma

@elmussol @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 The joy that has been derived from meeting others on this network is incredible and I am grateful to people like Evan for bringing this space into existence.

Giac El Vecio

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:11:04 +0200 from Unio Diversi Spiritus

Viva Charles!

Ryan Finnie

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:56:15 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Evan Prodromou Whee! I was one of the first people on identi.ca, and had a habit of sniping the post IDs with round numbers. I ended up getting most of them, but it looks like 10,000,000 was the only which survived on archive.org.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100824174237/http://identi.ca/notice/10000000

Michael 🇺🇦

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:59:57 +0200 from friendica

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Evan Prodromou My Friendica coding experience started in December of 2012.

My first Statusnet experience had been this:

Date: 20.02.2010, 23:53

Post text "So, Account ist mit identi.ca verbunden&quot;

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Wed, 15 May 2024 04:26:22 +0200 from friendica

"A brief timeline of Fedi and my life on it"

Well that failed, but here's me being actually brief. 😄

2008-05-18 evan@identi.ca Fedi's first post ever identi.ca/evan/note/Y0QwGyc1QY…

2008-10-14 clacke@identi.ca identi.ca/clackemovedtounlimit…

2011-11-29 clacke@parlementum.net web.archive.org/web/2013030121…

2013-??-?? clacke@unlimited.status.net web.archive.org/web/2013050608…

2013-07-21 clacke@quitter.se chirp.cooleysekula.net/user/6

2016-10-11 clacke@mastodon.social @clacke@libranet.de is my main

2017-03-?? clacke@social.heldscal.la chirp.cooleysekula.net/user/43…

2017-05-?? notclacke@pleroma.soykaf.com @clacke@libranet.de is my main

2018-07-03 Present day! clacke@libranet.de @clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

#fedi16 #MyFediHistory

Rev NDM 🏳️‍🌈 Ⓥ 🧦☮️

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:07:45 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 @Stefan Bohacek taking it to get its drivers license. 🤭😂

DecaturNature

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:28:26 +0200 last edited: Tue, 14 May 2024 01:29:07 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 I didn't realize it was the anniversary, but on Sunday I'll be meeting up with some folk from our local, Atlanta-focused Mastodon instance, and raising awareness at Atlanta Streets Alive.
What event happened 16 years ago?

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:41:47 +0200 from friendica

@DecaturNature Post #1:

web.archive.org/web/2008061816…

This is my first post.
2008-05-18 15:49:33

Fediverse Contractor

Tue, 14 May 2024 01:41:47 +0200 from pleroma

🤔

Fediverse Contractor

Tue, 14 May 2024 05:26:01 +0200 from pleroma

So you made fedi? Wtf is a pixie dream boy btw?

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 07:51:34 +0200 from friendica

@“Terrorism” Investigator @DecaturNature I'm just a user, one among many. I joined a few months in.

Evan Prodromou wrote and set up the first server, defined the first and second protocols, started the first company, founded and co-chaired the workgroup that standardized the latest protocol.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Tue, 14 May 2024 07:55:47 +0200 from friendica

@“Terrorism” Investigator Think tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php… but more socially and energetically burned out and less gurl.

shellsharks

Tue, 14 May 2024 14:44:59 +0200 from mastodon

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 Can't say I've been around for all 16 years but glad to have been around for at least the last 2-6 (depending on when I start my count). I'll be writing on my site and posting about it here fwiw.

Rita ⁂

Tue, 14 May 2024 20:51:10 +0200 from akkoma

@clacke: inhibited exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 Hi! I’m a member of Fedicat (catalan fedizens) and this year we have a brochure to promote the Fediverse and Libre Culture in bookshops :)

#Fedicat #Fediverse #Fedi16 #HappyFedi2U

Forum thread: https://agora.fedi.cat/t/fedi16-cultura-lliure-a-llibreries/808
Pdf in our website: https://fedi.cat/participa/triptic-llibres.pdf
Font code: https://fedi.cat/participa (zip file)
Libre Art License (LAL): https://artlibre.org/

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

Wed, 15 May 2024 03:54:57 +0200 from friendica

@Rita That's a wonderful way to celebrate!